To Destroy a Dynasty Battle Info

[Lyle]

[Lyle]

Do not judge me because I end up giving you losses. Unfortunately, when two parties go to battle, some people have to die.

Unfortunately, if your men are in that battle and you fail to represent them in your posts properly, or even at all, then they are going to die a lot faster than your opponents.

First battle losses were like this (1st given from me):

Erik, you were too light on those losses, but oh well.

Xu Fu: you got annihilated this turn, you know that right?

Your troops left and attempted to attack SYC, in which they were stopped and beaten by a lot of elephants and powerful cavalry, from your front and flank. Though you ordered their retreat, they would still be attacked by both the elephant troops and cavalry. Your getting heavy losses. You'll complain about this, call it cheating, and give me total shit for it. I've been doing this for a long time, I know how to be biased, and I know how to not be biased.

I'm counting damage to all of your units, as I can't find one any other post that what you've told me and what Jorge has posted for you. You do have archers apparently on the walls, which I will take into effect. You posted no formation or troops, thus I and others will assume for you. That's how the game is played out, just like duels.
Losses: Total = 385. You were attacked by 200 Elephants, your infantry units would be wiped out. Also experienced cavalry. Elephants would scare your men, and morale would plummet. You were being attacked from two sides, with no formation, and no defense at all.
-70 Shock/Storm Twin Swords with Battle Robes
-125 Twin Swordmen with Battle Robes
-20 engineers /40 Horses/Chainmail
-100 Mounted Shock/Storm with Sword/Composite Bow / Chainmail
-30 Pirates On Chariots With Pike and Plate male
-25 Imperial Guards/ Armoured Horse / Glaives and Plate male
-10 Imperial Guards/ Armoured Horse / Spear and Plate male
-5 Imperial Guards/ Armoured Horse/ CompositeBows/ Sword and Plate male

Jin Pin:
Sending your troops into open fire screwed you over. Kong Suo and Bya Kou effectively stopped you from obliterating them, as they both defended and attacked you, in most cases.
Losses: Total = 190 You sent your troops into open fire and put them in a formation, which means they moved around, took the fire and did nothing but stand there and attempt to hope nothing bad would happen.
-5 Marines Composite Longbows / Chainmail (on walls? just subtract them)
-10 Marines with Crossbow / Chain Mail (detachment)
-70 Marines with Battle Axes (detachment)
-85 Crossbowmen (detachment)
-20 on walls

Sun Yuan Ci:
You effectively avoided any attacks, other that those 100 crossbowmen who, are almost gone by now.
Losses: Total = 80 As they were unprotected, yet also many other troops appeared and took the attention of the enemy. By next turn you won't have anymore.
-80 Crossbowmen (Front)

Bya Kou: Great tactics, but you got hit hard, and I hope you know it too. There are a lot of enemy crossbowmen, and thus it's hard to avoid all of that fire.
Losses: Total = 70 Crossbowmen ducked, retreated and sniped, while moving. Hard to keep moving, but would work.
-70 Crossbowmen

Kong Suo: Your detachment units are nearly spared, as when you have 200 elephants coming for you, you forget about fighting effectively. However, you sustain losses, as thatch shields aren't all what they are made out to be.
Losses: Total = 200 You did well here, you effectively drew fire, and yet defended against it while firing. For this, I take my hat off to you.
-80 Light Infantry (Militia/Sword/Light Chain Mail/Thatched Shield)
-70 Archers (Militia/Composite Bow)
-20 Armored Pikemen (Militia/Pike/Battle Robe)
-10 Amazon Riders (Amazon/Horse/Composite Bow/Battle Robe/Scimitar)

-20 Breaker Cavalry (Militia/Pike/Battle Robe/Embossed Shield/Sword/Armored Horse)



Over all:
Gate has been destroyed (western)
Han loses 575 troops
Zhao loses 350 troops

Han: This was very bad. I've seen bad battles, and this is one of them surely. I understand you may be new to this, or haven't fought a lot, but if you can't look over your posts and look at others without thinking about things, then your destined to fail. The only thing that caused loses was the sheer size of Jin Pin's crossbowmen troops. I know you'll complain about this, and call it un fair, but it'd only prove my suspicions that you've got no idea what your doing. I suggest that you talk to Cao before you post, and get some help from him. If not, then I will help you, as I gave tips to you Xu Fu in our little pm conversation.

Zhao: This is why I allowed you to be grand commander, Brian. And why I knew I needed you, Kong Suo on my side, and as well as you Bya Kou. Well done, you've proved your worth. Tactics are strong, and thus you really took it to the han.

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Xu Fu posted in response:

Wasn't outside the castle can't teach you to read.
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I responded:

Actually, yes you were. You may attempt to forget about posting it, but I remember you telling me what you did in pm's, and also the post you made jorge post, with all of your troops outside the castle.


I finally see what your thinking about.

Sorry, no.

You sent them out, ready to fight, you listed no numbers for the troops you sent out. And attempted to attack someone. You can't just withdraw them that quick, in a matter of seconds. You failed to cooperate with the post order, and thus that post was voided. I'm sorry. :/

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If you check the times, you will notice that he posted out of order, and then came into the battle and posted in a new order. His post is thus voided, and I considered the only properly posted post to be the one that would count.


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This, in my opinion is how battle losses should be done. I looked at Slick's and then made my own from his. You explain things, you explain every match up, so to make sure you know what your talking about and so that it's easy to tell whether or not it's fair for both you and the players.

This is a simple case of skill against no skill/weak skill. Jin Pin has done good, but Xu Fu posted no tactics what so ever. He charged, "crossed miles in two minutes" and then retreated back to his palace. However, he was stopped as he was moving by Kong Suo, who used tactics and beat him down with more numbers and stronger, larger troops. (200 Elephants with archers on top of them, and 600 Breaker cavalry [Militia/Pike/Battle Robe/Embossed Shield/Sword/Armored Horse].) There's no fighting 200 elephants hitting your right flank, and tier 2 equipped horsemen.

Xu Fu chose to leave because he sustained losses from this attack, which were so high because he had no formation, plan or anything. They were moving, not defending their rear or anything. They were retreating/assaulting.